OhNo itsJamie Talk 17:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC) The Allmusic page lists "3AM" as a post-grunge song, which is absolutely hilarious and highly dubious (it's practically a pop rock song!) - which is why I interpret that page as listing the biggest albums and songs by "post-grunge" bands, not necessarily the biggest post-grunge albums and post-grunge songs. In that case, it wouldn't hurt to list it under multiple genre's, since there is rarely universal agreement as to what genre a song/band falls under (as is the case for the Semisonic article). Yankees76 ( talk) 17:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC) I agree that allmusic is a reliable source then again, you could probably find another reasonable source that classifies it differently. It's labeled post-grunge, as indicated by a reliable source so I'm reverting your change. So wether or not you "think" it's a post grunge song shouldn't be coming into play here. Per WP:V the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth-whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true. Where does it say most commercially successful? Most post-grunge bands only managed one hit, except Matchbox Twenty and their most commercially successful song is Bent, not 3AM as is listed on the allmusic post-grunge list - so that theory isn't relevent. Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 23:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Like I said, the song more closely resembles pop rock: see the Sacramento Bee - Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 23:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC) I think a third party needs to be involved - the source is clearly a reliable source and your interpretation is certainly not accurate. You'd need a source much more concrete than that. Maybe Semisonic is a post-grunge band, but "Closing Time" ain't a post-grunge song. And if I'm interpreting that page correctly, it's showing the most commercially successful songs by artists that are labeled post-grunge. Yankees76 ( talk) 21:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC) A quiet/loud/quiet/loud dynamic can apply to any genre of music. "Top songs" has Closing Time, just after 3AM by Matchbox Twenty. Anyways, you wanted a source so here's 's "Post Grunge" page. In fact that description fits better than alternative rock ( modern rock is more accurate). Not post-grunge? You've heard the song right? The quiet-loud-quiet format alone should give you an indication that it's cleaned up radio friendly grunge. The question is, is this reference a reliable source? - Yankees76 ( talk) 20:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC) Allmusics "Top songs" has Closing Time, just after 3AM by Matchbox Twenty. Is Closing Time a post grunge song? 's "Post Grunge" page. JoeBrennan ( talk) 13:27, 1 August 2011 (UTC) Genre I put in a citation needed but I haven't changed the text since it may be accurate and just not sourced. If none can be found, soften the language to something like "appear to be continuous shots". Cite a reference where the video maker states that the shots are continuous. Primary Wave did not share song titles in these instances, but Wilson’s only songs with Swift are “Treacherous” and “Come Back… Be Here” from 2012’s Red.Some of the transitions on the left side could be edits. It also includes Wilson’s publishing rights to songs recorded by the likes of Taylor Swift, John Legend, Dierks Bentley, P!nk, Josh Groban and Chris Stapleton.
Primary Wave confirmed to Rolling Stone that Wilson’s deal comprises his entire catalog.
The cherry on top is the karaoke anthem that is Semisonic’s “Closing Time,” which spent 13 weeks at Number One on the modern rock chart in 1998. It also houses six songs from The Chicks’ Taking the Long Way, one being “Not Ready to Make Nice, which won the Song of the Year Grammy in 2007. Wilson’s deal includes a total of three Adele songs - “One and Only,” “Don’t You Remember,” and the multi-platinum “Someone Like You” - all of which are on the star’s groundbreaking debut album 21, which he helped produce. And it comes just one month after Stevie Nicks’ similar deal with Primary Wave. Only one week into 2021, this is the third major acquisition of songwriting rights this year, following that of Fleetwood Mac’s Lindsey Buckingham and Neil Young. Genre-traversing hitmaker and Semisonic frontman Dan Wilson has signed over 100% of his catalog - around 350 songs - to music publishing and management company Primary Wave, the latter announced on Thursday.
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